What is Socialism and isn’t that good?

• Do you really want others to decide where you live, work, play?
• Which socialist countries have been very successful? – none
• Well I know Sweden is a successful socialist country. – Actually, it's a capitalist country with large social domestic programs. It's now having large issues with the flood of immigrants and ever increasing taxes.
• What is democratic Socialism? It must be better? - it is still socialism just a different flavor. watch this video
• What happened to Venezuela? - Venezuela sits on top of one of the largest oil deposits in the world. Although Venezuela had one of the worlds strongest economys and the people were pretty well off Hugo Chavez convinced them that the oil companies were making large profits the people should have. When Chavez won the election (why not vote for the free money?) He took over the oil companies. and nationalized them. They didn't know how to run an oil company and now they have all of these valuable deposits beneath the ground and can't get it out.
• How did that happen? – the elitists running the country hired their friends and relatives who were ripping off the country and companies. They were incompetent and got rid of the people that had the oil flowing.
• How bad is it? – People are starving to death, waiting on long lines hoping for a few morsels to eat. Inflation rate is over 1400%.
• Once in office Chavez changed the constitution to give himself more power and imprisoned his rivals. Just like all dictators he consolidated all power and formed a class of elitists. They have all the power and money while the people who voted him into office are starving to death, waiting on long lines hoping for a few morsels to eat.
• Venezuela is such a mess right now. watch the video
• Most countries you think that are communist are really socialist there are only a few Communist contries left China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam.
• Why aren't socialist countries more successful?
• There is no innovation, the incentive to build better and newer products are gone.
• Why become a professional when you can be a laborer the financial incentive doesn't exist.
• There is no reason to try to better yourself or your family. You aren't in the elite class.
• The elites have a different set of rules for them, everyone else is at the bottom of the heap.
• Who is in the elite class?
• The elites are those that are deemed to contribute to the whole of society. For the betterment of it as a whole.
• Like who? Of course Politicians, Academia, Actors, Media, Rock stars, Professiona ball players, big business owners.
• Why do you think they push the narrative so hard? They're elite and your aren't.
• Any examples of elites vs non elites?
• Look at great Brittan with the terminally ill child Charlie Gard.
• He was terminally ill and his parents have tried to get him some help.
• After a while the courts ruled the parents can no longer take Charlie and try to help him.
• He was offered experimental help in the US and the EU rejected it and it was determined the parents could no longer try to help him.
• Do you want the government to have this type of control over your family?
• I wonder if Charlie Gard was one of the royals if he would be able to seek the treatment he needed?
• How about Obamacare (not so affordable care act)? – This is social medicine. It's good for the society. They lied to you! If you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr. If you like your plan you can keep your plan. It was all a lie. They knew you couldn’t keep your plan and Dr. and counted on the American people being stupid.
• Who said that? Johnathan Gruber a professor from MIT that was involved in creating Obamacare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adrdmmh7bMo&app=desktop
• Isn't it better if everyone has health insurance? Yes but its very expensive to do and its making many countries go bankrupt. If you need an MRI here you can get one in a day to two. In Canada it takes months, that why so many people come here for it.
• The constitution has given the federal government certain innumerable powers and everything outside of this goes back to the state and local governments. The federal government has no role in healthcare. It did go to the supreme court and it was ruled constitutional (although it shouldn’t have been). This goes for the fining those who don’t buy heathcare as well.
• The rate increases are ridiculous but not untypical. Why not leave it alone and do something only for those without insurance?
• Some of Trumps Ideas – allow experimental drug availability for those at the end of life, allow competition across state lines between companies, allow purchase of drugs from other countries
limits what the federal government is allowed to do and healthcare isn't one of them. Saul Alinsky was the author of “Rules for Radicals” and his rules are a key part of the socialist movement with communism as the end game in this country. Hillary Clinton did her thesis on Mr. Alinsky and you could see where many of her ideas come from. Notice these ideas are in practice today by the democrat party. This is the playbook as they push us to Socialism. · Power is not only what you have but what your enemy thinks you have · Never go outside the expertise of your own people · Go outside the expertise of you enemy · Make your enemy live up to its own rules · Ridicule is your most potent weapon · A good tactic is one your people enjoy · Keep the pressure on · The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain constant pressure on the opposition · If you push a negative hard enough it will break through into its counter side · Tactic that drags on too long is a drag · Price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative · Threat is more terrifying than the thing itself · Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it